Two weeks ago this is what the nude pool looked like!

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04-20-2011, 05:57 PM
Caedmon

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Originally Posted by CandG

If you can't see the difference between my avatar picture and the three pictures posted of the packed nude pool, there is no point even discussing this. What's really funny is that you don't see that difference. By the way, we've been going to H2 since 2000 and it has always been acceptable to take pictures on the nude side early in the morning when no one was there. In fact, if no one is there, who would complain?

I can clearly see the difference between the two. If you would read my exchange with hkdilbert, you'd know that already. But once again. Rules are Rules. Don't remember seeing a sign that says no photography after 7:00, or no photography if people are present, or no photography unless you get consent. There's only 1 sign and it says NO PHOTOGRAPHY. So tell me now....who's the one that is acting like the rules don't apply to them? Didn't you yourself say "Its not OK....PERIOD" ? ?

Now let's talk about your last sentence. "If no one is there, who would complain?" My answer is two fold. 1. It's still a rule. and 2. The people who aren't there will complain. Just like you weren't even there when the pics in question were taken, yet you are complaining. If your position is that you need to be present to complain, then you should probably move on to a different subject, cause you weren't there.
04-20-2011, 05:59 PM
CandG

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Originally Posted by ColonelPanic

I am definitely on the fence on this quite a bit. On the one hand, I definitely agree that you don't want to promote rampant use of cameras on the nude side, as it would have a definite chilling effect, and that's counter to the spirit of Hedo. On the other hand, it's nice (especially for the virgins but also for us DIF'ers) to get a glimpse into the fun there from time to time.

I will admit that I was a bit taken off guard of such a "large" photo at the nude pool. Typically when you see them they are of only a few people and the lens is tightened down to prevent exactly what people fear, exposure to the outside world. You did, however, do a great job of blurring the photograph. I suppose if I knew those people intimately, I might be able to pick them out based on body features. I think you did the right thing by taking the pictures down after a short time. It's a shame that there isn't a truly secure way to provide pictures on the internet solely for viewing and not stealing. :(

Thanks for sharing the pictures. I'm sorry so many people seemed to get bent out of shape by them, and I know you were not trying to be malicious or cause drama when you posted them.

I should have addressed this in my last posting. I completely agree with ColonelPanic. I never thought (and I hope I didn't imply) that there was any malicious intent in Face Down's posting of the pics. I completely understood her enthusiasm for her group and for the great fun they had and I know that sharing that fun was her only motivation in posting the pictures. She is a fun, positive poster on here and I always enjoy reading what she has to say. I was just concerned about the message the posting of the pictures might send to some people and how the widespread use of cameras on the nude side (and especially at the nude pool) might affect the whole atmosphere that we all love.
04-20-2011, 06:04 PM
CandG

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Originally Posted by Face Down

Yep...did not even find out about it till we got home and was reading this forum. I guess she was just hanging out the window w/ video camera in hand. Some words were exchanged and she basically told them to fuck off. That resulted in a Vodka Ting sent her way via air mail which still did not deter her. Finally a security guard was found and sent to the room where the video camera was taken.

I hope it was taken and thrown in the pool which is where many cameras on the nude side end up.
04-20-2011, 06:07 PM
CandG

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Originally Posted by Caedmon

I agree with you that there a situations where a photo on the nude side is not a big issue. We're on the same side of that argument. But it's still a rule. And if I'm breaking a rule myself, i'm not going to call out someone else for breaking the same rule. I'm not upset with anybody, so don't get me wrong....just pointed out how funny I thought the hypocrisy in the situation was. It was a good laugh for me this morning.

Caedmon, there was no hypocrisy and there is NO comparison whatsoever, and you know it. I believe this is called deflection. This is when someone knows they're wrong but tries to deflect the argument towards someone else. By the way, in my earlier posting I said there was a fully clothed, consenting guest in my avatar photo. I bet no one even knew that because the picture is so small you can't see him. The person standing in the photo is a Water Sports employee raking the beach. The guest is in the distant background sitting on the edge of a lounge chair. And, even at that, I asked for his permission because I wanted to get a picture of the point.
04-20-2011, 06:19 PM
CandG

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Originally Posted by Caedmon

I can clearly see the difference between the two. If you would read my exchange with hkdilbert, you'd know that already. But once again. Rules are Rules. Don't remember seeing a sign that says no photography after 7:00, or no photography if people are present, or no photography unless you get consent. There's only 1 sign and it says NO PHOTOGRAPHY. So tell me now....who's the one that is acting like the rules don't apply to them? Didn't you yourself say "Its not OK....PERIOD" ? ?

Now let's talk about your last sentence. "If no one is there, who would complain?" My answer is two fold. 1. It's still a rule. and 2. The people who aren't there will complain. Just like you weren't even there when the pics in question were taken, yet you are complaining. If your position is that you need to be present to complain, then you should probably move on to a different subject, cause you weren't there.

You know what? This is not worth my time anymore. The intent and spirit of the "no photography" rule is to protect people's privacy and if no one is there, their privacy is not in jeopardy. What a member of your group did was to blatantly and selfishly disregard the privacy rights of everyone in the pool (and yes, I suspect that even some of the Amigos themselves are in sensitive positions and would never have consented to the pictures if they had been given the courtesy of being asked). This isn't about rules. It's about courtesy and respect. The rule exists for the people who don't show courtesy and respect and who need to be reminded to do so.
04-20-2011, 06:23 PM
Caedmon

CandG....After reading your response to FaceDown, in all honesty, we aren't very far apart in our personal viewpoints on this matter. The difference is that you see the 3 photos in this picture as bad because of the precedent they set for future picturetakers, and I see your profile pic as a picture that sets a bad precedent. Not that you offended anyone or violated anyones privacy, but when people think it's okay to take pictures sometimes, then the debate of "when is it ok" comes into play. That's a much more complicated set of standards to agree upon. So much more complicated that I don't actually think it can be done. There are too many interpretations of morals, violations, and levels of expected privacy involved to come up with rules that are fair or agreeable to everybody. The only way to be consistant and fair to all guests is to allow it, or don't allow it. Apperantly SuperClubs agrees, since the rule they put it place is a cut and dry...No Photography Allowed. (with no stipulations).
04-20-2011, 06:33 PM
CandG

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Originally Posted by Caedmon

CandG....After reading your response to FaceDown, in all honesty, we aren't very far apart in our personal viewpoints on this matter. The difference is that you see the 3 photos in this picture as bad because of the precedent they set for future picturetakers, and I see your profile pic as a picture that sets a bad precedent. Not that you offended anyone or violated anyones privacy, but when people think it's okay to take pictures sometimes, then the debate of "when is it ok" comes into play. That's a much more complicated set of standards to agree upon. So much more complicated that I don't actually think it can be done. There are too many interpretations of morals, violations, and levels of expected privacy involved to come up with rules that are fair or agreeable to everybody. The only way to be consistant and fair to all guests is to allow it, or don't allow it. Apperantly SuperClubs agrees, since the rule they put it place is a cut and dry...No Photography Allowed. (with no stipulations).

Actually it's not complicated at all and I thought hkdilbert did an outstanding job of defining it. It is all about respect and, frankly, common sense. It has been widely accepted and well known among Hedo regulars for a long, long time that taking pictures on the nude side very early in the morning when no one is there is totally acceptable. Even the security guards will not bother you about it at that time.
04-20-2011, 06:34 PM
hivolt

We SO agree with everything you have just said!
It could NOT have been said better!! THANK YOU!
We all go there for a great time and THIS IS SO WRONG!! The Resort has very few rules--BUT!
IF PEOPLE WANT TO DO THIS?----RENT OUT THE FULL RESORT!
If NOT? GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!! TO POST PEOPLES PICTURES!
WAKE UP!
We are looking forward to having an AWESOME time. Looking forward to meeting GREAT people! Having a PHENOMINAL time! PRIVACY IS #1! We will be there May 26-June 2.
Hope to meet the GOOD people!
Laura & Lew
04-20-2011, 06:57 PM
Caedmon

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Originally Posted by CandG

Actually it's not complicated at all and I thought hkdilbert did an outstanding job of defining it. It is all about respect and, frankly, common sense. It has been widely accepted and well known among Hedo regulars for a long, long time that taking pictures on the nude side very early in the morning when no one is there is totally acceptable. Even the security guards will not bother you about it at that time.

Now hang on a gosh darn second. For starters lets not act like I took the pics, or that I am defending the person who took the pics. What exactly is it that you think I'm "deflecting" from? This conversation started because YOU said It's not ok...period. No matter who you are. You even refered to people who don't think the rules apply to them.

It was only after I pointed out that you had broken the rule yourself, that you come back with well it's ok sometimes. You've changed your position drastically. That's not called deflectionism, that's called doing a 180.
04-20-2011, 07:10 PM
phillygirl22

So a phrase was used that was not exactly what they meant -- we get it.

We all know what they meant, we all know the point many of us were trying to make...

Can we please call a truce on this one and get back to what is normally fun, friendly chatter??
04-20-2011, 07:25 PM
CandG

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Originally Posted by Caedmon

Now hang on a gosh darn second. For starters lets not act like I took the pics, or that I am defending the person who took the pics. What exactly is it that you think I'm "deflecting" from? This conversation started because YOU said It's not ok...period. No matter who you are. You even refered to people who don't think the rules apply to them.

It was only after I pointed out that you had broken the rule yourself, that you come back with well it's ok sometimes. You've changed your position drastically. That's not called deflectionism, that's called doing a 180.

Nevermind...I give up!
04-20-2011, 07:34 PM
Face Down

OK...since I started this mess I insist all parties still going back and forth go to the liquor cabinet and pull out a bottle of Rum Creme and drink it the way god intended....off a body part!! I agree with Phillygirl, lets get back to the regularly scheduled program and talk bout fun, sun, booze and neekidness!
04-20-2011, 07:56 PM
jamericanskc

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Originally Posted by Face Down

OK...since I started this mess I insist all parties still going back and forth go to the liquor cabinet and pull out a bottle of Rum Creme and drink it the way god intended....off a body part!! I agree with Phillygirl, lets get back to the regularly scheduled program and talk bout fun, sun, booze and neekidness!

We couldn't agree more. What's been done has been done. Let's all move on. We're all there for a good time and we will all continue to go there for a good time. Let's dump this thread and go look at one that shows some boobies!!
04-20-2011, 08:07 PM
Caedmon

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Originally Posted by Face Down

OK...since I started this mess I insist all parties still going back and forth go to the liquor cabinet and pull out a bottle of Rum Creme and drink it the way god intended....off a body part!! I agree with Phillygirl, lets get back to the regularly scheduled program and talk bout fun, sun, booze and neekidness!

Oh great!!! I'll just do my shot of my hand...........thanks for that one asshat. ;)

LOL
04-20-2011, 08:33 PM
HedoIIIlover

If you see a huge number of people in any one place you can bet there will be a camera or two anywhere and Hedo is no exception to that. Rules are there and like any set of rules some will bend them. That is life. If my life was such that I could not even think about being outed as being AT Hedo I would NOT GO. Old rule, DO NOT BE THERE. Rule two, if you see things happening that you can not be part of, leave. SO, cameras will be around and more of them the larger the number of ppl.
Be ready to enjoy the part of the pool area where there are a lot less people and thus the camera issue becomes mute. I was there, knew the camera(s) were around and had the option to leave the main pool area had I wished to. The mass of people was of more concern to me as well as the walk to the self serve drink station to get my diet and ice. This has gotten way out of hand for the issue here on the board in my humble OP.

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