C/O side camera use - beware

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Originally Posted by MNMYYC

This very site has 2 sections in the gallery for Hedonism II pictures, naughty (people and parties) and nice, so there is no doubt, people are not only taking pictures but they are posting them right here for our viewing pleasure. I don't think this is a matter of leave the camera in the room, it is a matter of taking pictures of yourselves and others (with permission) and using them for your own personal collection and posting right here for example as long as there are not other people in those pictures. It is all about respect and common sense and not trying to be sneaky or perverted. Personally we have taken pictures over the years but have never, ever posted one anywhere on the internet nor have we ever shared with any friends who do know we go to Hedo, these are for our eyes only.

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There is no question that the majority of people who take pictures are respectful about what is in their photo and smart about what they do with it after. The problem is that there are idiots and assholes out there.

"Being an idiot is like being dead... When you are dead, you don't know you are dead, it only effects those around you. Same goes with being an idiot!"... one of my favorite quotes. Bill Nye the Science Guy

I don't want to see cameras around, because I don't know you... I know that the odds are that you're a good person, but I don't know you well enough to know what you're going to do with that camera or the pictures that you take. My wife and I don't have the luxury of being able to go public with our choice of vacations or adventures into the lifestyle... it could seriously impact our jobs. Seeing people around taking pictures adds a level of anxiety that we don't need and we're in a place where cameras are supposed to be prohibited.

Just the other day I saw a picture posted on THIS forum of what looked like a topless beach with a large number of strangers in the background... I'm positive permission wasn't solicited from those people. Just think... that person in the background could be you! or if you don't care about your own picture... think of someone else you love who has something to lose if that picture got into the wrong hands...

I don't think anyone really has any objections to you taking your camera out for an early morning photo op, or purposely going off somewhere quiet to take a photo of you and your partner. But your camera/smart phone does not need to be with you during the busy parts of the day/night when people are around.

Just help those of us who are paranoid... leave your camera or devices in your room!

Here's the way we see it and we're not trying to play devil's advocate. We don't want naked or sexual pictures of us on the internet or anywhere that we have not given permission. It's not ideal BUTT if it were to happen, it wouldn't destroy our lives because very simply, they are pictures and we are who we are. If anyone goes to a place like Hedo or a nude beach or wherever and feels that if a picture got out and was published it would destroy their lives and the embarrassment would be life changing...they should not ever go to those places. It's not about respect very simply because you already know there are plenty of people in the world without it. It's about common sense. Be practical. Everyone has a still and video camera in their pockets. Everyone. If the chance of it happening is so potentially destructive to you, nude beaches or resorts are not the place for you. YMMV

My fear is that someone "believes" that I should know that people break the camera rules at Hedo, and therefore it's my fault for being naked in the background of their photo (or the foreground for that matter)...

These people don't feel guilty, or don't weigh my concerns appropriately, because it's not their fault I'm naked... It's not their fault if they post these pictures either, because it happens all the time... if we didn't want this to happen we should have stayed home.

I know there are idiots out there. But I don't accept their right to be an idiot! When people behave like idiots, they should be talked to by those around them, security should step in, and peer pressure applied to discourage the behavior.

I see Hedo as a sort of sanctuary. it's not a public beach (although I think the beach is technically "public"). People tend to protect each other and their rights, which is FANTASTIC and provides the freedom everyone is so addicted to. I just want the peer pressure to continue keeping cameras away and discourage the potential idiots out there. Having the "no camera" rule in place just allows the resort the right to search through someone's camera and act appropriately if needed.

I know the people posting the counterpoint to this aren't suggesting that they have a right to take pictures of others or post them either... but the idiots out there may misunderstand your point of view and think its OK to take pictures because tons of people obviously do it... I just want that person to know that IT'S NOT OK! And many people like that cameras are not allowed.

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Originally Posted by ShyinOntario

My fear is that someone "believes" that I should know that people break the camera rules at Hedo, and therefore it's my fault for being naked in the background of their photo (or the foreground for that matter)...

These people don't feel guilty, or don't weigh my concerns appropriately, because it's not their fault I'm naked... It's not their fault if they post these pictures either, because it happens all the time... if we didn't want this to happen we should have stayed home.

I know there are idiots out there. But I don't accept their right to be an idiot! When people behave like idiots, they should be talked to by those around them, security should step in, and peer pressure applied to discourage the behavior.

I see Hedo as a sort of sanctuary. it's not a public beach (although I think the beach is technically "public"). People tend to protect each other and their rights, which is FANTASTIC and provides the freedom everyone is so addicted to. I just want the peer pressure to continue keeping cameras away and discourage the potential idiots out there. Having the "no camera" rule in place just allows the resort the right to search through someone's camera and act appropriately if needed.

I know the people posting the counterpoint to this aren't suggesting that they have a right to take pictures of others or post them either... but the idiots out there may misunderstand your point of view and think its OK to take pictures because tons of people obviously do it... I just want that person to know that IT'S NOT OK! And many people like that cameras are not allowed.

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I wholeheartedly agree with you. Also, lets not forget the original post...it was about some guy essentially hiding his camera under a towel and occasionally taking it out to film. Obviously, he knew that what he was doing wasn't right. Unfortunately, he's probably not alone is subtly filming.

We agree too, steps should be taken to prevent and deal with violators of rules. But rules will still occasionally be broken sadly. Nature of the beast.

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Originally Posted by MNMYYC

This very site has 2 sections in the gallery for Hedonism II pictures, naughty (people and parties) and nice, so there is no doubt, people are not only taking pictures but they are posting them right here for our viewing pleasure. I don't think this is a matter of leave the camera in the room, it is a matter of taking pictures of yourselves and others (with permission) and using them for your own personal collection and posting right here for example as long as there are not other people in those pictures. It is all about respect and common sense and not trying to be sneaky or perverted. Personally we have taken pictures over the years but have never, ever posted one anywhere on the internet nor have we ever shared with any friends who do know we go to Hedo, these are for our eyes only.

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Agreed. we too have taken many pictures over the years, with respect, and have made them into slide shows for our very personal (as in NO ONE else sees them) viewing only. We don't post pictures on line and don't even send pictures of our Jamaica freinds even to themselves, unless there is no indication of the resort, AND, they are in street clothes. We view these slide shows a few weeks before our trips, to remember the goods and the old freinds (some no longer with us). The pictures are stored on encrypted disks with very strong 256 bit passwords, incase our computers get stolen. It is with sad reluctance though, that going forward we will be taking less pictures, simply because no one can be trusted. We'll be the ones there in April with bright coloured stickers over the camera lens of our tablets.
As a side note, I haven't been able to get Trip Advisor to remove a picture of the wife, that someone else posted. On the bright side, she's in costume, so no exposure, but she is referanced as being at Hedo.