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    Why guests get bumped if your not with a group???

    Why are people being bumped if they are not with a group? Seems to me they paid just as much, dont want a night or 2 free when they return (if they return) and dont have anyone coming to they're rescue when they get bumped to another resort. Seems a bit unfair doesnt it? Thought it was first come first served. Many people wait and save all year to go, just to be told "Sorry your not with a group"? Why cant Superclubs fix this problem? Guess they dont want to say no to anyone, "Its far easier to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission"

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    I wonder why people get bumped at all... the number of no shows for the resort has to be very very small... and the number of people staying longer then they booked has to be small as well..

    Maybe I'm missing something... <shrug>

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    I am not sure just being with a group keeps you from being bumped or not. We have seen folks who were with the same group we were, upon arrival at Montego Bay, sent to Grand Lido.

    Much as airlines do it and even hotels here in Vegas do it, Hedo overbooks to compensate for cancellations. Airlines ask for volunteers to be sent on the next flight and give compensation. Here in Vegas, we "walk" you to another property and give you compensation. The same goes for Hedo, they "walk" you to another property and give you free nights on next visit. It may not be what you want, but it is what they do.

    Are large contract groups less likely to have people bumped, yes.



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    Wait - whoa is this a reality? I'm going May 3 - May 9. You mean I could show up and they might tell me they have no room for me and send me to another hotel? omg that would suck hardcore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miggity Mike View Post
    Wait - whoa is this a reality? I'm going May 3 - May 9. You mean I could show up and they might tell me they have no room for me and send me to another hotel? omg that would suck hardcore.
    It is a reality, in today's economy, I would not worry about it...checking the Resorts website, I do not see any large groups there during your time frame.



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    Hey Vegas,
    Do you know anything about that "Travel Naked" group going in June to III?
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    There is a pretty simple little trick to seeing if you run a risk of getting bumped or not. Hit Expedia or one of those sights and build a trip for your days. follow it through to the reservation page. If they are still taking bookings you are pretty safe. If they tell you the resort is sold out that week, travel prepared, check in early, all that stuff.
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    Tbone,

    I do not, I did check here http://www.hedonism.com/event_details.php?event_id=286 and their home Travel Agents website here http://www.exotictravelservices.com/GroupTrips.html but I have never heard anything about them in any of the forums we frequent. Sorry I could not be more help.


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    Geeezzzzz!!!! I don't even wanna look at this thread.... The reality that you don't even wanna think of happening.

    We almost got it one year but luckily it didn't happen. I know I would lose my mind if it did but unfortunatly no matter how much you bitch they can still do it. We have heard so many stories on this happening. We have also heard though that you are less likely to be bumped with a group then without. Not sure how true it is but have always heard that.


    Better to be safe then sorry T&K...


    Now I have to go and get a shot or 2 after thinking about this subject...lol


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    Unfortunately it's true but fortunately it's not a very common occurance. Obviously it only happens during really busy weeks. It you know there are a lot of groups going down or its a "lifestyle" month, it may be overbooked.

    It usually only occurs on the weekends...Saturdays primarily. Not that it helps any but just so the new people know, it's not for the whole week, usually just a day or two.

    First bumped are comped rooms and people like staff that may be staying at the resort or working vacations like traveling fitness instructors, etc.

    Certain travel agents, due to long time service and lots of bookings receive preference over others who book through less known travel agents or places like Expedia, etc.

    First come first served can't always work either because while you may have booked your trip 6 months ago, someone else booked their's last month but is arriving a day before you so they are already there and signed in.

    This is the reason that while you might save by booking through discounted sites it's not worth the few dollars a day difference. However if you could book to arrive mid-week you might be able to avoid this. Although when we were there last week, the resort was sold out through Wednesday.
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    Never did/do understand the bumping thing...even if it's in Vegas...If you have X # rooms, when they are sold they are sold!! I understand the hotel is paid for the room, at Hedo, or any other vacation resort , after 60 days out you are out your $$$$ and then insurance takes over...and they are paid whether you show or not!....so other than a cash grab...why do resorts/hotels count on people not showing up and overselll a resort/hotel...Maybe someone in the travel indstry can explain selling a room tiwce????
    But on the other hand bumping does occur during busy weeks...and that seems to be the business model of the accommodation industry, so if booking with a group means more chance you will be at the Hotel...rather than Breezes...I say more power to the groups!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv_2_Hedo View Post
    Geeezzzzz!!!! I don't even wanna look at this thread.... The reality that you don't even wanna think of happening.

    Now I have to go and get a shot or 2 after thinking about this subject...lol

    Here's to this no bumping in July!!!!!!!!
    Luv2 I hope...... we won't have to worry to much about it our plane get's in at 9am we should be at the resort by 11am. Fingers crossed plus we booked with castaway
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodylynn View Post
    There is a pretty simple little trick to seeing if you run a risk of getting bumped or not. Hit Expedia or one of those sights and build a trip for your days. follow it through to the reservation page. If they are still taking bookings you are pretty safe. If they tell you the resort is sold out that week, travel prepared, check in early, all that stuff.
    Very good idea. I'll prob check it one every other week or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv_2_Hedo View Post
    Geeezzzzz!!!! I don't even wanna look at this thread.... The reality that you don't even wanna think of happening.

    We almost got it one year but luckily it didn't happen. I know I would lose my mind if it did but unfortunatly no matter how much you bitch they can still do it. We have heard so many stories on this happening. We have also heard though that you are less likely to be bumped with a group then without. Not sure how true it is but have always heard that.


    Better to be safe then sorry T&K...


    Now I have to go and get a shot or 2 after thinking about this subject...lol


    Here's to this no bumping in July!!!!!!!!
    I tell ya, after 4 trips there we always worry about that. The kicker is this, I heard when you get to the superclubs lounge at MoBay and check in then thats when they will tell ya. But I do remember a person at the resort incharge of a group that came when we were already there, and she was very demanding that one of her members get the group and not an arriving guest. I think they were all on the same bus and arrived at the same time. I sure as hell aint staying down the street at that Pirates Cove place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by weliveinvegas View Post
    Tbone,

    I do not, I did check here http://www.hedonism.com/event_details.php?event_id=286 and their home Travel Agents website here http://www.exotictravelservices.com/GroupTrips.html but I have never heard anything about them in any of the forums we frequent. Sorry I could not be more help.


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    Thanks for checking. I saw those too. I wish I could get a little more excited about being there with them. I also wish we could have gone the week before with the quad squad. Next year maybe.
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